Jadd app.(:

[Jaddenai]

Name: Jaddenai.

Species: Hallesabrae.

Special Ability, if any: N/A

Abnormalities in Physical Features:
She looks like a liger, but with the added features of a lion's mane, and saber fangs. Overall, she is a little bigger than the average liger due to the saber blood, her body has stripes like a tiger, with brown rings along the length of her tail(again. like a tiger's.) and has minty green eyes.

Height: 4ft at the shoulder. 5ft at the head.(compromised via Star)

Weight: 500lbs.(compromised via Star)

Build: Stocky & Muscular.

Saber Fang Length: 6 inch(compromised via Star)

Limitations: Whatever a predator's limitations are will be applied to her as well.

Weakness's: Due to her stocky stature, she can't run that fast. And Jadd is aggressive when it comes to other females, she prefers to be the 'dominant female' and isn't afraid to throw her weight around to prove it.(But she can sometimes befriend other females, so don't let that deter you from rp'ng with me. ^-^)

Reference, (if applicable): Click here.

Rp sample:
Coliseum. Feline swelled with pride hearing the compliment given by the black male, her paw lifted to offer a dramatical bow with her snout dipping towards the ground. "Thank you, Art. Though do not let my catch fool you, my talent lies in fighting." the woman flexed her muscles to prove this fact while her paw lowered back to the ground. Being the head hancho of the place, Coli let him feast first and would dig in after him; she made sure to leave plenty for the silver Queen whenever she decided to join in on the feast. After her meal, duchess would approach the male and sprawl out beside him to set to work on grooming his well toned shoulders; her tongue swiped across his cheek and she licked affectionately between his eyes and ears, if allowed. "How was your day?" feline inquired between licks. (Taken from my lioness alt in Tanz)

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Coliseum. Attention was snagged by Art as he motioned her closer, she approached to briefly bump cheeks with the male before she turned towards the shy male of the bunch. How intruiging? But what could he possibly be shy about? Invisible brows knitted together in thought; when he turned to run off, Coli would leap from her position next to the king to try and grapple her forelegs around Nguvu's neck in order to detain him.. per say. "What's to be shy about? We're all friends here." lady purred into his ear with a mocking grin on her lips. If she caught him, then she'd keep him where he was; y'know, wanting the gossip of why he tried to run out like his ass was on fire. If not, then she'd simply remain by Art's side, watching him run away like a girl. Haha! (And a semi-fight post for you guys.)

Anything else we should know?:
I would prefer that no-one else apply to be this breed. It is strictly rp'd between myself and a few chosen friends. Thanks.(:

P.S; If anything needs changed. Please let me know.(:

P.P.S; Fixeded.

P.P.P.S; Things were changed. Ref added.

[Hazmat]

"- P.S; If anything needs changed. Please let me know.(: -"

They're not actually liger x saber hybrids, for starters. That's just the best way to describe their appearance. They are in fact a species on their own.

Also I don't remember them being 6ft tall.

Official stats for Hallesabrae-
avg. height: 5ft at the shoulder
avg. length: 13.33ft (25% tail)
weight range: 450-600 lb
saber fangs: 6.67in

And yes (for everyone else's reference) this is a species I invented, so I do know what I'm talking about~

[Jaddenai]

And fixed.
It's been forever since i rp'd her as a Hallesabrae, so i was a bit rusty and was guessing at stuff.
But it's fixed now, and thanks you the stats.(:
<3

[Mayara]

Tiger's teeth are about 1 1/4 inches, then a lions teeth are about 3.14 inches. However, looking up information on a saber tooth tiger, 7 inches was about their average tooth size- So I guess I can accept 6.67 inches, even though it's what, almost 6 1/2 inches?

We aren't really accepting creatures over 5 foot right now, and paw to the top of it's head would make it about six foot. If you wanna lower it to 4 at the shoulder, then be about 5 to the head, I'm fine with that.

With this information being said, I kinda wanna think this over. Maybe a few other staff member's words and questions can help.

[Kaps]

I'd have to agree with May her comments, but if it were me, i wouldn't want to over do things, like the teeth? though 6.67 inces is pretty much 7 inches, maybe lower it a little?

and as for the height, 5 feet at th shoulder, plus head, that's about 5'5 or 5'6 maybe make the height as May said 4 at the shoulder, that way when we count the head, it would be about 5 feet

For Now i'll have to go with pending and as may said, before i make up my mind, i'd like to see some insite from other Staff Member's

***EDIT***
There was also the weight matter, i noticed after i posted this. Um, Well i dunno. 450-600 pounds? that's kind of alot for a 5 foot Wolf. Not even Nakisai weighs that (at least not to my knowledge) I dunno, if i had to guess a weight for a 5 foot wolf it would most likely be some where in the 300's, Maybe 320 or 340?

[veyerus]

I would have to agree that the weight is a bit of an issue. As for height, I think it's only fair to give them the right everyone else did to have characters up to 6 feet tall. Though it would be appreciative if they weren't as tall.

I really don't have anything to say on the teeth fact. If sabers had 7'' as that's part of their blood line. Well, it'd be nice to see it atleast 6 and below, but that's my opinion.

I just have a question. How far does she take her dominance issue with females? Like, would she pick on any sized female just to show dominance? and would she kill to prove it?
I'm just curious, it really has nothing to do with the app.

I'm pending on this til a set weight, height, and teeth length are discussed further.

[Jaddenai]

Just an fyi, Jadd isn't a type of wolf, she's a type of big cat.
Just so no one continues to compare her to a wolf. Think big cat, mkay? Liger sized, therefore she's gonna weigh more than a wolf, yeah? :3

As for her dominance issues. Jadd doesn't go around picking on anyone, but if someone starts something with her then she'll dish it right back, y'know? And normally, she wouldn't kill anyone(i always ask consent anyway before i try to kill anyone), she just prefers to be left alone.

I'm willing to shorten her teeth and maybe lower her weight. But her height will remain, since in the rules it does state that we are allowed to have characters that are at least 6 ft. :3

[Hazmat]

As Jadd said, to put it simply... cats weigh more than dogs do.

Male lions stand between 3'9" to 4' in height, will weigh anywhere from 450-550 lb.
Sabertooth cats were in a similar height range to lions, but they generally weighed 600-800 lb.

If you're asking for a cat to be 300-ish lb at that kind of height then it would be severely underweight...

edit: I should probably also have made a note that all of those stats I listed for Jadd's breed were in fact maximums.

They were also all worked out mathematically, so adjustments would have to be made in scaled percentages, to keep the animal in healthy and working proportions. Asking only to shrink fangs or only to lower the weight would mean this balance is thrown off.

Just thought I'd throw that out there.

[veyerus]

Haz, thank you for helping and with the information.

Might I add we're still trying to sort through a rather large number of new applications. We'll be looking more into the large cat breeds to grasp a better understanding. Thank you for answering the questions and continuing to be patient with us.

[Kaps]

Jaddenai - Sorry, i'm used to reading many Wolf-cat hybrids and not large cat breeds, The weight however, is still very Ify with me, at least make it around 450? I understand that Big cats tend to weigh alot more then a wolf.

@hazmat - I understand your tying to help out, but it's uncalled for.. i've never handled a cat special, so i'm rather unformilliar with large cat breeds, and what vay says applies to me as well..

[Jaddenai]

Investing: It's fine, i understand. Since i'll bet you guys don't really get a lot of big cat applications, so it's understandable you all would be a bit iffy. But i really don't understand why everyone is so obsessed with trying to get me to change her weight, i mean no offense, but if you understood that if big cats weigh more than a wolf then you wouldn't be stressing the weight issue at all.

And i really don't understand why everything is being asked to be lowered. I mean, i could understand if something like this had been accepted before, and then abused, but it's like ya'll aren't wanting to give me a chance at all, y'know? And i'm trying to be patient and understandable with everything.

[Reusarnias]

Kaps - Big cats are big animals. They can have big amounts of weight. Considering she is a hellsabre, a liger(lion x tiger)xsaber. That is one big cat. It would weight at least around 600 ibs.

[Glaciel]

First of all, I would like the main person who applied for the species to keep us updated on HER character in specific when inquired of and only her if possible. I don't know who the other two people are that are joining in the topic in defensive natures without stating their relation to this all.

Sabers have gone extinct, and from what I see this feline is larger than a normal male lion (existing species to be compared to) and weights more as well. She's female no? Thus should be lighter.

Alas, considering all I see going on here and basing off the potentially aggressive nature ICly, then I'll have to say,

Not recommended.

The name of the dream is: Canid|Distinctions - Feral Wolf RP!
If we have to have arguments over a purely feline character(no wolf or canine blood whatsoever), then I rather just not see it in the dream as it would create discomfort amongst many, accepted or not.

You are applying for a large cat within a feral -wolf- dream. If the staff questions certain aspects, it means that others in the dream will as well thus we are entitled to them and you, if you wish to become an accepted species, must answer them politely as well (this is addressing everyone who has made their comments on this thread, not that there's been any impolite-ness however there is clear bickering going back and forth in the underlines from what I can see).

That's my final say, other staff are quite welcome to state their opinions as well, of course.

I do apologize, however this seems to be getting out of hand.

[Jaddenai]

Yes, she is larger than a male lion. But the species we are comparing her height/weight/anything else to would be a liger. Therefore, she is going to be larger than both lions/tigers.

She's only aggressive towards females. Though forgive me for sounding rude, just 'cause she is aggressive towards females(though she does have other female friends), you aren't going to accept me? If so, then that is a stupid reason.

The dream would also like to welcome three new species. A bat, bear and a large cat, which could be used as a tiger, lion, cougar, or a lynx. <- Huh? Forgive me, but if big cats aren't allowed in a feral wolf dream, then why is there an avatar to rp as such? :3

But i do thank you for looking over my application and commenting. I've been as polite as i can, and trying not to lose my temper.

[Hazmat]

May 2, 2011 17:21:56 GMT -5 Glaciel said:

I don't know who the other two people are that are joining in the topic in defensive natures without stating their relation to this all.

It was stated in my first post that I am the creator of the species Jadd is attempting to apply for, therefore I am simply trying to make sure that the species still makes sense with the adjustments required in order to be accepted here.

I have only posted - factually - what needed to be said to correct the mistakes in this discussion, and really don't see how I'm coming across with a 'defensive' tone. But if my input is no longer welcome, then so be it.